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Living ethically and being forgiven

Living ethically and being forgiven

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may God stand
Okay..I was raised as a Christian.

I am now pagan.

What does a pagan do for forgiveness?

How do I live ethically?

How do I forgive myself?

I can't just *be* something I am not. There is a part of me that insists that while things have relationships to one another, 'everything is not everything.' So how do you either avoid formlessness or narrowminded literalism?

I think I need more sleep. And maybe to get out more.

Can the dead forgive?
  • Ethics

    Apply the Golden Rule (you might want to choose the broad or limited version of the Rule - ie. 'do unto others' or 'do not unto others'), and everything else will work out from it. This is all ethics a human needs.

    As for forgiveness - it's all up to you. I can tell for myself that I tend to forgive most things simply because I can't be bothered with being angry at people. Unless there's a good opportunity for revenge. But there's no _obligation_ to forgive outside Christianity, so you can choose freely...
  • Re: Ethics

    There is better example of Golden Rule in all religions (including several 'pagan' ones) here
    • Re: Ethics

      Thank you so much for replying to this. It really helped a lot to read that. I feel sometimes like I'm (to quote Dave Allen) a blind man, in a totally black room, trying to find a black cat.
      • Re: Ethics

        I feel sometimes like I'm (to quote Dave Allen) a blind man, in a totally black room, trying to find a black cat.
        I hate to nitpick* but when trying to find for a black cat in a black room, a blind man is likely to do better than a sighted-man who's used to finding by looking. So the quote seems rather inapropriate.

        *ok, I LOVE to nitpick this kinda thing
    • Re: Ethics

      I'll pick that nit right along with you. I contend--not necessarily. Being blind does not sharpen hearing, or smell or touch as a matter of course, you have to *learn* how to pay attention to your senses. And if the blind person is either new to blindness, or in a room they don't know, I'd say they were about equal in their odds of trying to find a highly mobile, quiet target.

      The joke goes however, something like this:

      An atheist meets with the Pope, who advises him that being an atheist is like being a blind man in a pitch-dark room and trying to find a black cat. He (the atheist) needs God, in order to find the truth.

      The atheist replies that yes, indeed. Being an atheist is like being a blind man in a pitch dark room and trying to find a black cat. "The difference between you and me is, you think you've got him."
      • Re: Ethics

        Being blind does not sharpen hearing, or smell or touch as a matter of course, you have to *learn* how to pay attention to your senses.
        I absolutly, totally agree. But did I say that sharpened senses are the reason the blind man is likely to do better?

        And if the blind person is either new to blindness, or in a room they don't know, I'd say they were about equal
        Sorry I avoided that nit with the careful use of "is _likely_ to do better". It's also possible for a sighted man to be used to working in a pitch black environment, or thinks before acting on instinct. I'm talking probabilities.

        Btw, I don't get the joke. Should that be an agnostic?
        • Re: Ethics

          Btw, I don't get the joke. Should that be an agnostic?
          Perhaps. A real atheist would have contended that there is no cat.
    • Re: Ethics

      I was going to say that to the blind man the light in the room and the colour of the cat hardly matter.

      And yes, I love nitpicking as well.
  • Re: Ethics

    Be carefull when applying the golden rule, though. Not everyone wants to be treated the way you want to be treated.
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